tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post7130334358669203139..comments2024-01-05T11:00:30.673-06:00Comments on DFW Point-to-Point: Myth 3 - BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COMESteve Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-32172520831498094622011-03-12T00:32:57.470-06:002011-03-12T00:32:57.470-06:00I enjoyed reading it. Honestly though, couldn'...I enjoyed reading it. Honestly though, couldn't you have found a Tim Horton's while you were in Quebec? <br /><a href="http://www.sixthreezero.com" rel="nofollow">beach bike</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-58066829988801197942011-03-05T15:00:50.274-06:002011-03-05T15:00:50.274-06:00Danc: We cyclists may be few, but we're touchy...Danc: We cyclists may be few, but we're touchy. Being few, we are unlike the ubiquitous drivers of pickup trucks that don't even consider that a "no trucks" sign might be construed to apply to them even though those same drivers happily park in "truck parking" spots and some get truck license plates for their vehicles. In our family, I refer to the Land Rover as "the truck." My wife refers to it as a "car."Steve Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-7685851353022243182011-03-05T14:32:10.371-06:002011-03-05T14:32:10.371-06:00Steve road: The sign didn't say "no bicyc...Steve road: The sign didn't say "no bicycling," it said "no bicycles." Replacement of the "es" with an "ing" would have sent an altogether different message.<br /><br />Good catch.danchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09656663165658142443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-33995928637372148382011-03-02T17:50:34.098-06:002011-03-02T17:50:34.098-06:00It is from the new initial rail and MUP riders of ...It is from the new initial rail and MUP riders of any decree that the serious (whatever in hell that means) road riders graduate from<br /><br />Most of the off road riders that I know do have road bikes also; there are also serious off road competitive types who do commute on beater/training "MTB" bikes, that simply are not part of the local advocacy scene nor are they invited to be a part thereof<br /><br />The result is a seriously diluted/anemic advocacy membership base that otherwise might be an enhanced resource poolChuck Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135578486955751337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-87856044916292946482011-03-02T16:57:38.072-06:002011-03-02T16:57:38.072-06:00Other than environmental groups, I have heard no o...Other than environmental groups, I have heard no one suggest that roads to carry cars to local parks is not legitimate as a use of transportation money. Few argue against on-street parking, though that is not even recreational use of the road, nor is it transport. Chuck makes a strong point that it is mainly advocates of various stripes that so paint cycling.Steve Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-40777972982080493272011-03-02T11:02:40.629-06:002011-03-02T11:02:40.629-06:00Regarding splitting bicyclists into "transpor...Regarding splitting bicyclists into "transportation" vs. "recreation" categories notwithstanding destinations and/or where or how they ride is a major and repeated error that so called advocacy groups makeChuck Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135578486955751337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-64386461775936852692011-02-28T00:10:21.944-06:002011-02-28T00:10:21.944-06:00Guess I'll have to re-read my own post, Steve....Guess I'll have to re-read my own post, Steve.Khalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11866897914538110672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-65110436912895719162011-02-27T22:33:24.837-06:002011-02-27T22:33:24.837-06:00Recreational paths may or may not draw cyclists fr...Recreational paths may or may not draw cyclists from further away, but bike lanes and other facilities which link useful destinations can definitely encourage people to use them instead of walking or driving from point A to point Bcyclerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10331461189944538729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-51699872753518275872011-02-27T18:19:03.851-06:002011-02-27T18:19:03.851-06:00The sign didn't say "no bicycling," ...The sign didn't say "no bicycling," it said "no bicycles." Replacement of the "es" with an "ing" would have sent an altogether different message.<br /><br />Velouria makes an important point. Different things are important to different people. That is one reason why the totality of the message rather than simply one element or another is what is needed.<br /><br />While I agree with Khal that "t versus r" isn't legit, his own blog post almost suggests that "t" usage is something your next door neighbor engages in while "r" is something that "others" do. THAT is a distinction worthy of future myth treatment.Steve Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-71959740151575093352011-02-27T16:57:10.979-06:002011-02-27T16:57:10.979-06:00Bicycle parking facilities are unimportant to me, ...Bicycle parking facilities are unimportant to me, especially since most racks used in the US don't fit my bikes anyhow. For that reason, I hardly notice them and they play no role in encouraging me to cycle. Bicycle lanes on the other hand have made a huge difference in motorist behaviour where I live. It was very stressful to cycle on certain roads before the lanes due to motorist aggression, but not those roads are downright friendly.Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-71372440412027769292011-02-27T15:00:57.565-06:002011-02-27T15:00:57.565-06:00I have to disagree with splitting bicyclists into ...I have to disagree with splitting bicyclists into "transportation" vs. "recreation" destinations, at least if it is done with prejudice. When we do auto traffic counts, do we make such distinctions in terms of daily traffic counts?<br /><br />Sure we take destinations into accounts in order to MANAGE traffic,i.e., make sure we can handle peak daily loads into an industrial park, or weekend traffic to the beach, but we don't treat motorists going to the beach as second-class citizens or somehow less worthy of good roads. Money is made working, and money is spent playing. Its all part of the economy and needs transportation support.Khalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11866897914538110672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-11685532706388785932011-02-27T13:07:58.050-06:002011-02-27T13:07:58.050-06:00Nice discussion as always.
Regarding "... Tr...Nice discussion as always.<br /><br />Regarding "... Traffic Counts" info, what is the transportation and recreational split? A recent local count of multi-use path (MUP) found less than 4% of the all users where commuters. The NCTCOG slide title "Pedestrian and Bicycle TRAFFIC Count" is misleading if it primarily recreational users.<br /><br />Was "No Rollerblade, Skateboarding or Bicycling Allowed" in a pedestrian plaza? Possibly a more specific sign "No Rollerblade, Skateboarding or Bicycling Allowed on Sidewalks" is warranted. Operating bicycles on a sidewalks [or pedestrian space] is a poor safety space but NOT adverse to cyclists.danchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09656663165658142443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-4415871848706551862011-02-26T19:43:35.828-06:002011-02-26T19:43:35.828-06:00I not only FOUND a Tim Horton's, but I went th...I not only FOUND a Tim Horton's, but I went there each morning, learned to say "tres grand café avec une crème" well enough that I'd get answered in French rather than English. At that point, the lady would make a lot of rapid inquiries and the gig would be up. I even took a photo of the Saint Sauveur Tim Hortons, which did NOT have a bike rack.<br /><br />The problem eating at Hortons is that their sandwiches are more complicated to convert to low carb than are McDonalds and, unlike the Hortons in BC, most of them north of Montreal are not sharing space with Wendys.<br /><br />I imagine I'll find a way to work my Tim Horton's photo into a future post. In the meantime, roll up a rim for me.Steve Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-52910182693787589872011-02-26T19:27:36.896-06:002011-02-26T19:27:36.896-06:00I remember getting to the parcel shipping building...I remember getting to the parcel shipping building and being incredibly disappointed in the bike rack conditions - the lack of them! This, after riding such excellent lanes to get there. I had to sacrifice the cord normally wrapped on my front wheel, to instead secure my bike to the fence - I removed the quick releases on this bike because it is my city-bike and theft is so rampant. But I didn't like having to do that, even for the short time it takes to drop of the parcel. In the shippers defence - if there is any, they are new to this particular building, but they since they did think of parking spots for the car they could have also thought about cyclists! <br /><br />Good post, I enjoyed reading it. Honestly though, couldn't you have found a Tim Horton's while you were in Quebec? It would have been much more patriotic to your host country. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com